Bart simpson one hand clapping3/21/2023 ![]() Re the NT stuff, you mentioned Horus in particular, there's a decent discussion of him (and Osiris) here: This suggests that perhaps there really was an actual event that such stories were based upon and recorded by several different cultures. But often there is no causal connection to be found between the flood stories that is, the stories are thought to have been developed independently of eachother. Re the OT, there are indeed many parallels to be found, ex there are several other flood narratives. You've equivocated the OT stories with the NT so we should be careful to separate them. One of the chapters in my eBook is on this subject. Re the copycat stuff, I have looked into it, quite a bit actually. In the slapping analogy, pain=hearing, slap=sound. Hi David! I think I addressed your arguments re the Buddhist koan in my original post … I wasn't implying that the waves "make sound", I was suggesting that the waves ARE the sound the waves are the phenomenon produced by the tree falling. Notice any connections? The epic of Gilgimesh was written long before the old testament… so basically, you have stories copied from one generation to the next… oh well! He tryed to eat from the tree of life, but a serpent stopped him… Rather, a spiritual journey myth, kind of like the epic of Gilgamesh. Also, the jesus story, like Horus, was based off astrological movement, not to be taken as a literal story. Cultures took other religions all the time back in the day. Oh, and Jesus is just a copy of Horus, an Egyptian God… you should look into it. Thus: our ears pick up MOVEMENT, and our brain interprets it. Waves don't make any sound, our brain does. Reality is the same way, consciousness contains all things, if no one is there, there are simply waves made through space. If you do not hear the "dream tree" falling, then it never made a sound, because it your dream and if you don't sense it, it does not exist. Oh really? You mistake your senses for reality, the same way a dreamer mistakes a dream for reality. ![]() "the idea that a someone must be present at an event when it occurs for it to truly have happened is ridiculous." We cannot directly observe, say, Abraham Lincoln being shot, or Columbus "discovering" North America, or even Jesus rising from the dead, but we can still be reasonably certain these historical events occurred by studying the available evidence.ġ8 Responses to “"If a tree falls in a forest" riddle: Answered” For example, we know historical truth by examining the historical evidence. Direct observation is not the only way that we can reasonably know that something is true. We know trees do not (under normal circumstances) fall silently to the ground when they fall therefore if we find evidence that the tree has fallen, we can conclude that it made a sound. The slap would still exist even if I didn't feel the pain, for example, if I were on pain-inhibiting medication.įurthermore, the idea that a someone must be present at an event when it occurs for it to truly have happened is ridiculous. Here's an example: If someone slaps me, and I feel pain, the pain itself is not the slap, the pain is only the perception of the slap. Could there be sound in our ear without the sound waves? No, because THAT is the 'sound'. The sound itself (a "series of pressure waves") is the result of the tree falling our perception of it is when it enters our ear and we interpret it by the process of hearing. The answer is yes, there is sound … but there is no perception of the sound. ![]() Now, with all due respect to Lisa, I think the "tree falling" koan is rationally solvable. (The picture to the right is of Bart 'solving' another popular koan, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?") ![]() Lisa: But Bart, how can sound exist if there's no one there to hear it. Lisa: If a tree falls in the woods and no one's around, does it make a sound?īart: Absolutely! One of the most famous koans is this one, as explained by Lisa and Bart Simpson: A Buddhist koan is "a story, dialog, question, or statement in the history and lore of Chan (Zen) Buddhism, generally containing aspects that are inaccessible to rational understanding, yet that may be accessible to intuition". ![]()
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